Movie Superman VS movie Thor
That was the only point I was trying to make, since someone said (without evidence, or even regard for reason) that Superman is a better fighter than Thor. It's not just theory to say that Thor is a better fighter. Logic tells us this, due to Superman not having any training or experience that we know of, and Thor having a lot.@the_stegman said:
The only time I can ever recall Thor actually showing fighting ability besides randomly hitting things with his hammer is when he was depowered and took down featless SHIELD guards. Even if we were to give the fighting ability edge to Thor, he is facing someone who has shown to be superior to him physically in every category, speed, strength, endurance, durability, and Superman beat Zod, a person who was literally born and raised to be a warrior, as well as taking on Faora and Non at once (coming out of it with literally not a scratch on him).
They may be "featless", but we can safely assume that they were highly trained. SHIELD is an elite organization above the military, I dont think they have untrained people guarding stuff and going on top-secret operations.
Thor taking on those SHIELD agents while depowered is not the same as Superman defeating Non and Faora. Thor was on a physical level playing field with the agents, but I've seen no evidence that Superman and Faora/Non were. From what we know about how Superman's powers work, we can also assume that Non/Faora were not at his power levels since they just arrived on Earth.
Also, I remember that Thor fought a battle against those Frost Giants (or whatever they were) in which he took on a rather large number. He seemed to show a lot of skill, and then proceeded to one-shot kill this large creature thing. Why are you ignoring that battle?
As I already said, Feats>>speculation. The security guards were fodder no named agents who themselves showed no other feats besides fighting and losing to Thor. Just saying they're elite soldiers means nothing, after all, talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words.
You use the word "assume" a lot, while I showed proof of Superman's superiority. In the film, Earth's atmosphere gave Kryptonians heightened abilities. Nowhere did it state that the longer they stayed on Earth, the greater their abilities become. All of Zod's soldiers including Zod showed to be on par with Superman, plus having more military training than him, yet he still beat them.
As for the Frost Giants, I didn't ignore them. In my post, I said "The only time Thor ever showed any fighting ability besides randomly hitting things with his hammer, was with the SHIELD Agents" when fighting the Frost Giants, what did he do? Randomly hit them with his hammer and flew through them..with his hammer. Something Superman has duplicated with his fight with Zod, only for a much more prolonged period of time.